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celebeskalossi wrote:I never learned the skills I needed to protect myself in the outside world.
celebeskalossi wrote:I was trained by my NM to submit, to obey, to concern myself with her feelings not my own. I am trying to look at my being here as a choice I am making, a choice to stay with what is "familiar," because I know I have the option to leave, if I could just gain the strength.
celebeskalossi wrote:So I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for ways to keep one's inner strength, calm and clarity, when dealing with N behaviors
celebeskalossi wrote:Hi everyone,
I am trying to look at my being here as a choice I am making, a choice to stay with what is "familiar," because I know I have the option to leave, if I could just gain the strength. I have learned a lot about NPD and have gotten a lot of understanding about my NM's behaviors, how to identify and understand them within the context of the disorder.
remember a few times when I was younger during arguments she threatened to call the 'mental institution' to have me taken away. I know these are just empty, threats and her way of keeping me quiet and controlling the situation but since I have been living with these threats since a very young age, it is difficult for me to detach from them and not to feel fear.
celebeskalossi wrote:I actually feel a bit overwhelmed, and I feel a little nervous about posting her for fear my NM will find this.
celebeskalossi wrote:I am not doing too well at the moment. Since I called NM on her last boundary violation and stated some firm boundaries about it she has been desperately looking for ways to tighten her control and to find fault with me.
celebeskalossi wrote:They just want me to painfully aware of what a huge sacrifice it is for them to me give anything at all to me and how I am thereby indebted to them for the rest of my life. In other words, they are capable of giving materially--all they want in return is my soul!
celebeskalossi wrote:Could this mean NM is aware of the harm she has done to me over the years?
celebeskalossi wrote:I am going to try to explore possibilities for getting out of here, but for the moment I just feel overwhelmed at the thought of how to do it. The city where I live is pricey, and the most I'd probably be able to afford at the moment is a room.
celebeskalossi wrote:I am an artist so I have very little money.
I agree. It's very hard to grow up unless you get the heck out. If you're over 18 years old, able-bodied and single, there's no good enough excuse not to try, even though it's scary.gettingthere wrote:-
Are you a full-time working adult earning a paycheck? If so, you should try to leave as soon as possible.
You will never be at peace until you put physical distance between yourself and your PM.
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celebeskalossi wrote:I feel resolved to get out now though... I feel I need to do it and that I can do it...
No. When gettingthere described your NM as "PM," I assumed that's what you had concluded she was. (I haven't been on these forums in awhile, so I haven't read your other threads.) I'll refer to your "mother" as NM from now on. :)celebeskalossi wrote:Retired from NM, I notice you say PM rather than NM... Is there something that gives you the impression my mother is more of a P than an N? Just curious... I have read about both, but ultimately found the distinctions a bit blurry, so settled for narc...
Your NM probably was emotionally abused and/or neglected in early childhood, and now her brain is "broken," causing her to behave like a perpetual 6-year-old (she's stuck at that emotional age). My great grandmother was abusive, then my grandmother, then my NM; i.e., the abuse was passed down from generation-to-generation.I don't even understand how people like this can really exist... sometimes it doesn't even make sense to me--how can any of this be real?
Yes! Avoid her, plan your escape and leave. Choose a location where there's no chance you will bump into her. Set a deadline so you don't procrastinate. How does December 1st sound?so I think the best thing for me to do is keep trying to not react to her and not let her engage me.. keep a low profile.. and avoid being around her as much as possible while I make my plan to get out... I feel resolved to get out now though... I feel I need to do it and that I can do it...
QuiteGoodEnough wrote:You say you want to learn to "keep your inner strength, calm and clarity, while dealing with N behaviors". That's the very worst thing you could do in your situation. If it were possible, there wouldn't be so many here recommending NC as the only effective solution. Those of us who are suffering our own psychological problems and/or health compromises are not suffering them because we are weak or in some other way defective, but because we're strong and we foolishly believed that we could survive in Narc World. We were proven wrong when our bodies turned on us.
QuiteGoodEnough wrote:
That old joke is true: You know how you can tell when a guy with a liberal arts degree knocks on your door? He's carrying a pizza.
PerformanceFootwear wrote:p.s. here's the pizza you ordered
RetiredFromNM wrote:By the way, don't tell her you're planning to move out, or else she'll punish you more (if that's at all possible). To avoid the drama, move out when she's not at home (you probably don't have much stuff in your one room), and leave her a note telling her you've moved out and you'll contact her when you get settled. Do not give her your new address and telephone number; you need to be able to control the contacts, if any, you have with her. You also may wish to let the police know your situation, in case your NM calls them claiming you're a missing person; the police understand some people are crazies.
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