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Anger at N keeps spilling into new relationships
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sag07



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 537
Location: Elgin, IL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

N-Bombed

I will go out on a limb here, but maybe it was for another reason she felt the relationship wouldn't work. Also, I would like to date a person that went thru a toxic relationship as we might have more in common. I have found time and time again that normies has a very hard time understanding these (dysfunctional) type of relationships and might find it's in their best interested not to get come involved with the issues, and who could blame them?

As for contacting your pass xN, I don't think that would be a wise choice! If it's closure you are looking for, you won't find it there!

Just my 2 cents and N-bombed more information would be helpful..

Sag
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fraggle_1972



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 567

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its interesting how a normal person disclosing a dysfunctional relationship to a normal person = gotta get out of here

but a N person disclosing a dysfunctional r/s to a normal person = sympathy and support.

How do they do it so quickly.

He uses the last geniune/out in the world r/s (as opposed to the other hidden reserves) to become the victim for the next string of women, and so the cycle goes.
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sag07



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 537
Location: Elgin, IL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fraggle

Good question,

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but a N person disclosing a dysfunctional r/s to a normal person = sympathy and support.


Maybe like any "Good" presentation, if you do it just (and they get a lot of practice) right you got a good seller..

Sag
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fraggle_1972



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 567

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like a used car salesmen?

so if someone is looking for sympathy and someone to fell sorry for them is this an indication of an N or P?

I know I dont want sympathy, I want to be acknowledged, I want understanding and to understand and support. I dont want someone to feel sorry for me.
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snowynight



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 204
Location: Southern California

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think usually the sympathy they garner is based on lies from their past. For instance when I first met N he told me the most awful stuff about his two ex wives. Told me the second one just up and disappeared on him with no word. He at the same time was being such a sweetheart to me in the idealization phase that I was just livid at his ex. I was determined to comfort and sympathize and be there for him every step of the way and be nothing like her. Well, turns out she actually "left" because he had made up lies about the 1st wife not letting those 3 kids from first marriage come visit if 2nd wife was there. So he asked her to leave, and blamed the reason on wife #1 no less, when their own baby was only 6 months old!!!!!! She went to live at shelter with a 6 month old baby that he did not see for over a year!!!! What a freaking compulsive liar. Everything he said about them was so untrue, and I felt sooooo much sympathy for him not realizing how much I was being lied to. Yes, they want sympathy, but usually, what they really want is to get people to buy into their lies about the past and assume none of their past was their fault and that they were victims. This is huge NS to them.
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sag07



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 537
Location: Elgin, IL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowynight

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what they really want is to get people to buy into their lies about the past and assume none of their past was their fault and that they were victims. This is huge NS to them.


yes, that' what I mean (I was in sales) it's more like selling a product and informing the "customer" how bad this other product was. And then getting this new customer to invest in (them) this new product. Doing this in their presentation! Man Snowynight if the presentation is great, who cares about what the product is! It's all about smoke and mirrors...

Sag
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Harley



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fraggle_1972 wrote:
Its interesting how a normal person disclosing a dysfunctional relationship to a normal person = gotta get out of here

but a N person disclosing a dysfunctional r/s to a normal person = sympathy and support.

How do they do it so quickly.


That is a fascinating concept to ponder. I think maybe its because they've practiced it so many times they've become experts, but more importantly since there is no real emotional pain involved when they are trashing their ex the other person can pickup on this and feel that they are over them and not have a fear of them going back.

I'm exactly where N-Bombed is. I recently met someone I liked and she told me her ex was a sociopath so I started telling her about mine. After that she started becoming more distant and was no longer interested. I'm not sure if it was because she thought I still wasnt over it or if she thought I was weak for allowing it.
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N-Bombed



Joined: 04 Mar 2007
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sag07, I think you may be right - she actually told me she was very indecisive and didn't know her own mind and said I would 'mess up her head'. She said she was commitment phobic at present and might be moving abroad. She talked about exes and was quite open with me so I was open with her in return.

When someone suddenly changes you run through your head all possible errors. Maybe it was because I had to cancel a date owing to flu? Maybe she just met someone esle? Who knows. But it's maddening.
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jomo20071



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 733
Location: Northern California

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nbombed,

I can relate. Though I am not divorced from my N yet, I foresee that the scars will run deep, and I can totally see myself in your situation.

I mean I will heed the "it didn't work out" thing, for sure, but just revealing that my marriage only lasted two years will sound weird enough. If I heard that from someone I dated I'd think, "someone was a nut."

I DEFINITELY agree with survivormom that she may have interpreted the stalker comment incorrectly. I would have wondered the same thing that Survivormom said. It's just that you gave her just a little info, but not the full picture, so one ends up forming conclusions based on what one has and that can be very unfortunate.

I guess this is why it is good to remain silent until the story can or should be told in all it's glory....
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Liamo 722



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 77
Location: Ireland

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys
I had never really thought too much about the expression "stalking" before I finished with my ex.
I had seen the movie Fatal Attraction yeras before and I would have thought yep that´s kinda stalking someone.
The idiot that I was with accused me of "stalking" him, when I was calling him and asking a couple of strange questions like "How the hell are you in a relationship with your landlady.....asshole???"
Now I being a reasonable kinda person would not have considered this as stalking???? but then again I don´t live in the N world??
However, I did go on a date once and I told the guy that my ex accused me of stalking him...... he asked me " What did you do ??"
I answered " I was calling him"
My date said......... " He sounds like a psycopath to me "

Allleluhia and praise the Lord!!!!!
ITS TRUE............. There are normal men out there!!!!! Surprised
Liamo
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