Psychopath and Narcissist Survivors Support Group

lynn1234 · Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 671

I am a little confussed now.. When I loged onto this site I read the info by femfree about Narcissist and Sociopaths-Anti-social Personality Disorder.. This is what it said

Narcissists = NEED FOR Adulation, Attention, Admiration and being Feared

Anti-social = Need for : Money, Control, Power and fun

I think my NM might be more Anti-social. Is Anti-social the same as Sociopath?.. Can some N's be both? Do any of your NP's also seem Anti-social?.. Maybe I have misdiagnosed my NM as an N and she is more Anti-social.. I think is some ways my NM has N qualities but she seems to want more control, power and fun...

Also.. it mentioned that sociopaths don't miss people when they are alianated or gone.. I think my NM fits this category...She hasn't missed me since I went NC..

It also stated that N's lack empathy but do feel confussed, lonely and abandonded when they are alianated or the relationship ends.. I don't see my NM careing much that I have gone NC with her.. Sometimes I see her upset when a boyfriend breaks up with her though..But her emotions seem superficial....
Can anyone help me with this?

Any

lightinthetunnel · Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 3

My Narcissist P showed signs of anti-social behavior. She always wanted to be in the limelight, but she had to be in the right mood.

In public, she would sparkle, hit on everybody, really just tease them, she would be in the center of attention. It was just an act, but she fooled everybody.

In stark contrast, during her depression, she would not move from the couch for days. She did not want to meet anybody either. She disregarded her friends, family, did not care about anything but HER problems.

The character traits are overlapping: Narcs, Anti-Social and sociopath. (The latter two are the same)

The main difference is that Narcs disregard others for selfish reasons, (i.e. self importance is #1) while Anti-Socials just simply do not give a damn about law and order.

Both of these disorders are very destructive and characterized by the lack of empathy, inability to sustain relationships.

Narcissists control subliminally, and they are very manipulative. You get sucked into their world, get enchanted and the moment you are hooked, they take control.

Your existence, in the eyes of a Narc, is just a source of N supply. They need constant admiration, and you might be fooled, thinking that you are special.... As soon as they find a better medium, you can be forgotten in a heartbeat. They do not want to lose you however, so your number will be kept for rainy days, when there is nobody else is around.

It is difficult to label disorders as they often manifest as combinations of several different ones.

wownowfree · Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 255

Lynn,

This is an interesting topic. I wondered this about my N mother. She never showed any emotion when my Grandmother died. Everyone in the family thought she "showed it in her own way" -- but speaking as someone who lived with her, I don't think she cared one way or the other. The only thing she cared about was the funeral where she would see lots of people and get N supply. Creepy.

The best descrption I've read is on the site:

http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/tools/integrity.htm

The author lists Narcissists on a Continuum as the least disturbed, then Borderline and then Anti-Social. In other words they are really the same disorder, but in varying degrees depending on how severe. I think this is acurate. My mother also displays some anti-social traits. I think Narcissism is a milder/less severe form of anti-social. Depends on the degree of early neglect/abuse the person suffered.

wownowfree

lynn1234 · Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 671

Llightinthetunnel....
I like your name... it's hopeful..and nice. Very Happy

Thanks for explaining it.. I think I understand the difference more now...
Yeah.. My NM seems to do things for selfish reasons having to put herself first... So... I guess she falls more along the line of Narcissist... Thanks for helping me out with this....

Wownowfree... My sister also didn't show much emotion when my aunt died. I never saw my sister cry... she was in elementary school at the time.. I thought it was strange then and now I am begining to wonder if my sister is an N too....You might remember the posts I have written about her....
I can't remember how my NM acts at funerals.

My grandfather was on an anti-depressant after his daughter died.. I guess in some way he was affected... It seemed to make his N behavior worse....he became angrier and stranger after that... My Grandfathers N behavior has gotten worse over the years. especially after his daughter died..