Psychopath and Narcissist Survivors Support Group

samvaknin · Site Admin Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 2316

Why are narcissists not prone to suicide? Simple: they died a long time ago. They are the true zombies of the world. Read vampire and zombie legends and you will see how narcissistic these creatures are."

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FIRST, there is a craving for Narcissistic Supply - and then the hunt. The narcissist pursues women not because he finds them attractive, appealing, possible soul mates, or sexual partners. He pursues women because he needs his drug. He is an energy and attention vampire and women are the best sources of this much-desired elixir.

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But when a vampire tick attaches themselves to you, in whatever form, then you have to be careful. The best way is to apply a lit match to their body and that will make them release their head that is embedded in your skin. Without becoming cynical, I can recognize true friendliness that is not exploitive.

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The narcissist is, thus, often described by others as "robotic", "machine-like", "inhuman", "emotionless", "android", "vampire", "alien", "automatic", "artificial", and so on. People are deterred by the narcissist's emotional absence. They are wary of him and keep their guard up at all times.

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I always think of myself as a machine. I say to myself things like "You have an amazing brain" or "You are not functioning today, your efficiency is low". I measure things, I constantly compare performance. I am acutely aware of time and how it is utilized. There is a meter in my head, it ticks and tocks, a metronome of self-reproach and grandiose assertions. I talk to myself in third person singular. It lends objectivity to what I think, as though it comes from an external source, from someone else. That low is my self-esteem that, to be trusted, I have to disguise myself, to hide myself from myself. It is the pernicious and all-pervasive art of unbeing.

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People find the arcissist "cold", "inhuman", "heartless", "clueless", "robotic or machine-like".

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The narcissist is a machine which never rests, not even in his dreams, and it has one purpose only - the securing and maximization of Narcissistic Supply.

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Narcissists often strike their interlocutors as "machine-like", "artificial", "fake", "forced", "insincere", or "spurious". This is because even the narcissist's ostensibly spontaneous behaviours are either planned or automatic.

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The over-valuation and devaluation cycles are mere reflections and derivatives of these ups and downs of the narcissist's pools of energy and flows of supply. Efficient (that is, abrupt) energy shifts are more typical of automata than of human beings. But then the narcissist likes to brag of his inhumanity and machine-like qualities.

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AVKent882 · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 14

Actually Dr/Mr. Vaknin,

I figured Narcissists don't usually commit suicide because they usually care too much about themselves and think of themselves too highly to commit suicide. The only time a Narcissist or a Psychopath might kill themselves as if it would give them control over a situation-- for example if they were on death row... they kill themselves as a way of showing they have control over when and how they live and die.

I understand what you mean to an extent when you talk about having thinking that's very computerized or robotic. I'm not a narcissist or a psychopath though... I have some kind of disorder that can appear very similar to an untrained eye: Asperger Syndrome-- (Or at least some kind of Pervasive Development Disorder-Not Otherwise Specified) the disorder includes excellent rote memory, an average or above average IQ, deficiencies in empathy, although it becomes different when it comes to socialization-- narcissists are often socially adequate or even adept, people with Aspergers an the like are inept as a rule of thumb, and I remember almost always inadvertantly pissing somebody off, saying something that turned out to be rude and not getting it, and being picked on a lot. To make it worse I was physically awkward too-- Since I was 12 or 13, I've been over six feet tall (6-2 1/2 or 1.88 - 1.90m) and I'm a woman (average height for a female 5-6 or 1.68 m). Luckily I eventually leanred to adapt my learning and thinking styles around the way I actually learn best (in a more computerized mechanical sort of way, so rather than just knowing that a person rolling their eyes or looking at their watch means they're bored as hell and want you to shut up, I instead would learn it like how a robot, a machine or computer would-- if a person picks up their wrist looks at their watch, or rolls their eyes, they're bored, change the topic-- don't ask them if they're bored-- they'll deny it to be polite). In regards to the height issue, it's unrelated to the disorder though.

I do not fit every aspect of the disorder, though which is why I listed PDD-NOS. I am probably a little bit more observant than a typical person with the disorder-- I do have some degree of a natural sense of humor, plus I can also copy and mix-up the comedic-styles of some people (The way I tested this out was often by talking to random people and telling a joke and seeing how the person reacted -- I would also test this out on about a dozen people). I do however, have almost no facial expresions naturally, just a few small facial movements; most of my facial expressions have been learned through duplicating other people and making faces in the mirror, and I have what some call "the thousand yard-stare" which actually reminds me of the gaze a lot of serial killers have, and yes this has worried me a bit. As a child to teenager, believe it or not, I had trouble making eye contact, however I could look at myself in the mirror with no problem, and the gaze looked relatively emotionless and serial-killer like. Eventually a psychologist I saw told me one way to appear like you're making eye contact is to focus your eyes on the area at the top of the nose and in between the eyes-- eventually, I felt comfortable making direct eye-contact. Unfortunately sometimes, not often, I have difficulty determining when to break the gaze.

Unlike how they describe people with Autism/Aspeger/Narcissism and the likes being emotionless, I do have emotions. They may not be as extreme as most people, but I remember having my feelings hurt a LOT as a kid. I've been blissfully happy, in love, angry as hell, humiliated and totally full of rage. It just seems my face doesn't move as much naturally.

samvaknin · Site Admin Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 2316

Asperger's Disorder is often misdiagnosed as Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), though evident as early as age 3 (while pathological narcissism cannot be safely diagnosed prior to early adolescence).

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The Asperger's Disorder patient is self-centered and engrossed in a narrow range of interests and activities. Social and occupational interactions are severely hampered and conversational skills (the give and take of verbal intercourse) are primitive. The Asperger's patient's body language - eye to eye gaze, body posture, facial expressions - is constricted and artificial, akin to patients with the Schizoid, Schizotypal, and Narcissistic Personality Disorders. Nonverbal cues are virtually absent and their interpretation in others lacking.

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AVKent882 · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 14

I have no posture or gait trouble. I do have fixed interests... but the thing is it's not just exactly one interest. But, they all seem to involve either mechanical things, or science.

As I've gotten older I've become less socially akward and have become more normally. I still am often considered a bit quirky, but I can fit in okay.

Andrea Kent