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THE FOLLOWING QUOTES ARE PROVIDED BY MEMBERS. I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY CONNECTION WITH ANY PARTICULAR RELIGION, HOWEVER THERE ARE SEVERAL QUOTES PROVIDED FROM THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE QUOTES FROM OTHER RELGIOUS WRITINGS TO ADD TO OUR COLLECTION. iF YOU CAN PROVIDE ANY, DO CONTACT THE MANAGERS AND ASK US TO ADD THEM HERE AND PLEASE LET US KNOW THEIR SOURCE.

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Religious Quotes

Comments Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

"Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
(Luke 10:19)

Matt 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many .

Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Conclusion
“Narcissists”, “Sociopaths”, “Personality Disorders”; by whatever name we use, there are people, even in our congregations, who are evil. We have become accustomed to thinking of the evil as the Hannibal Lectors, the Hitlers, the Darth Vaders of the world. Not so. Satan does not always appear as the roaring lion, but sometimes as the angel of light.* It behooves the pastor to understand those who may have relational disorders, and to know of what they are capable. The pastor should be aware of how to deal with them: openness, a hug, and a listening ear will not be effective in these cases. Only the Law of God can break through their disorders, and only as God wills. In the meantime, the pastor must protect the flock from potential harm. Sometimes there is no solution but the one Paul presents in 1 Corinthians 5:11-13:

“But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. ‘Purge the evil person from among you.’”
A Christian Approach to Severe Relational Personality Disorders (excellent read for religious guidance)
http://stonge.intheway.org/documents/The%20Evil%20Personality.pdf

Psalm 10 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.
http://www.carm.org/kjv/Psalms/Psalm_10.htm

"1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jan'nes and Jam'bres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was."
(The Second Epistle of Paul the Apostle to Timothy 3:1-9)
courtesy Sam Vaknin

Woe to those who call evil good—Isaiah 5:20

“No Person is Expected to Stay in an Abusive Marriage,” Bishops Say
When I Call for Help states that “violence in any form – physical, sexual, psychological, or verbal – is sinful;”
http://endabuse.org/newsflash/index.php3?search=Article&NewsFlashID=394

Updated 15/06/2005

And because this type of evil views itself as justified, even noble, the people who embrace it tend to be unrepentant and remorseless. Like the helpful soup kitchen worker or the caring neighbor (who are actually doing good), the arrogant offenders see no reason to recant. And then to our utter amazement, as we form a response to this type of evil, we think about crossing the line. We toy with the idea abandoning the accountability and restraint of legitimate justice, and consider taking matters into our own hands. Gradually, we find ourselves calling this type of vengeful thinking justified and good — and suddenly we’ve become the thing that used to repulse us.
The Prayer of Revenge – by Doug Schmidt
http://www.dougschmidt.com/

One of the deepest of all human emotions is the internal need for acknowledgment and vindication when a person has been unjustly harmed, injured, or wronged — and the offender feels no remorse whatsoever. In many of these cases, forgiveness seems impossible, if not wrong.
The Prayer of Revenge – by Doug Schmidt
http://www.dougschmidt.com/

A lot of us trying to figure out the 'til death do us part' becomes a real mental struggle. It was actually Dr. Phil that mentioned about psychopaths, drugs addicts, alcoholics etc. as being 'deal breakers'.

And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
The Lord's Prayer

Life is not easy. It is a daily battle. Trials like sickness and failure can crush our spirits. False values and easy promises can entice us and even destroy our souls. And so we ask God to keep us from failing when we are tested, to help us to know the right thing to do, to deliver us from the evil which awaits us in life.
http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/teach.html

(bible quote on intimidation)"Now, Lord, consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness. Stretch out your hand to heal and perform miraculous signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus." (Acts 4:29-30)
http://www.horizonsnet.org/sermons/acts11.html

Matthew 18:6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Psalm 28:3-4
3 Do not drag me away with the wicked, with those who do evil, who speak cordially with their neighbors
but harbor malice in their hearts. 4 Repay them for their deeds and for their evil work; repay them for what their hands have done and bring back upon them what they deserve.

Psalm 37:21- The wicked borrow, and don't pay back, but the righteous give generously.

The Babylonian Talmud describes something called geneivat da’at (literally, theft of one’s mind, thoughts, wisdom, or knowledge), i.e., fooling someone and thereby causing him or her to have a mistaken assumption, belief, and/or impression. The sages believed that there are seven types of thieves and, of these, the most egregious is the one who “steals the minds” of people. (mentioned at Lovefraud.com)

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour."
~ Bible, 1 Peter 5:8

"Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."
~ Bible, James 4:7

"The devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
~ Bible, Revelation of St John 12:12

"Through envy of the devil came death into the world."
~ Bible, Wisdom of Solomon 2:24

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Matt 24:11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many .

Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2 Timothy 3 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)

2 Timothy 3
Godlessness in the Last Days
1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
6They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Peter 5:
8Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion lookingfor someone to devour. 9Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings.

Conclusion
“Narcissists”, “Sociopaths”, “Personality Disorders”; by whatever name we use, there are people, even in our congregations, who are evil. We have become accustomed to thinking of the evil as the Hannibal Lectors, the Hitlers, the Darth Vaders of the world. Not so. Satan does not always appear as the roaring lion, but sometimes as the angel of light.* It behooves the pastor to understand those who may have relational disorders, and to know of what they are capable. The pastor should be aware of how to deal with them: openness, a hug, and a listening ear will not be effective in these cases. Only the Law of God can break through their disorders, and only as God wills. In the meantime, the pastor must protect the flock from potential harm. Sometimes there is no solution but the one Paul presents in 1 Corinthians 5:11-13:
“But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. ‘Purge the evil person from among you.’”
A Christian Approach to Severe Relational Personality Disorders (excellent read for religious guidance)
http://stonge.intheway.org/documents/The%20Evil%20Personality.pdf

Psalm 10 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.
http://www.carm.org/kjv/Psalms/Psalm_10.htm

"1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jan'nes and Jam'bres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was."
(The Second Epistle of Paul the Apostle to Timothy 3:1-9)
courtesy Sam Vaknin

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary
the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh
about, seeking whom he may devour.
?Bible, 1 Peter 5:8

Woe to those who call evil good—Isaiah 5:20

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."--Matthew 7:15

“No Person is Expected to Stay in an Abusive Marriage,” Bishops Say
When I Call for Help states that “violence in any form – physical, sexual, psychological, or verbal – is sinful;”
http://endabuse.org/newsflash/index.php3?Search=Article&NewsFlashID=394

And because this type of evil views itself as justified, even noble, the people who embrace it tend to be unrepentant and remorseless. Like the helpful soup kitchen worker or the caring neighbor (who are actually doing good), the arrogant offenders see no reason to recant. And then to our utter amazement, as we form a response to this type of evil, we think about crossing the line. We toy with the idea abandoning the accountability and restraint of legitimate justice, and consider taking matters into our own hands. Gradually, we find ourselves calling this type of vengeful thinking justified and good — and suddenly we’ve become the thing that used to repulse us.
The Prayer of Revenge – by Doug Schmidt
http://www.dougschmidt.com/

One of the deepest of all human emotions is the internal need for acknowledgment and vindication when a person has been unjustly harmed, injured, or wronged — and the offender feels no remorse whatsoever. In many of these cases, forgiveness seems impossible, if not wrong.
The Prayer of Revenge – by Doug Schmidt
http://www.dougschmidt.com/

A lot of us trying to figure out the 'til death do us part' becomes a real mental struggle. It was actually Dr. Phil that mentioned about psychopaths, drugs addicts, alcoholics etc. as being 'deal breakers'.

And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
The Lord's Prayer

Life is not easy. It is a daily battle. Trials like sickness and failure can crush our spirits. False values and easy promises can entice us and even destroy our souls. And so we ask God to keep us from failing when we are tested, to help us to know the right thing to do, to deliver us from the evil which awaits us in life.
http://www.cptryon.org/prayer/teach.html

(bible quote on intimidation)"Now, Lord, consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness. Stretch out your hand to heal and perform miraculous signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus." (Acts 4:29-30)
http://www.horizonsnet.org/sermons/acts11.html

Matthew 18:6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Psalm 28:3-4
3 Do not drag me away with the wicked, with those who do evil, who speak cordially with their neighbors
but harbor malice in their hearts. 4 Repay them for their deeds and for their evil work; repay them for what their hands have done and bring back upon them what they deserve.

Psalm 37:21- The wicked borrow, and don't pay back, but the righteous give generously.
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Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer;
nothing is more difficult than to understand him.
Fyodor Dostoevsky