Psychopath and Narcissist Survivors Support Group

It's no secret that stress kills, it causes ailments, disease, and lowers the quality of our life - and shortens the length of it as well!

So, how is it that if I were to put a poison such as arsenic into another's body by secretive manipulative trickery, I would go to jail if caught. It's illegal to poison someone else, and to purposely cause them harm, or disease.....

Unless you are a psychopathic piece of feces masquerading the planet as a human being that is. Then you get away with murder, literally - only it's done by systematically tearing down all of your self-preservation instincts, and messing up your mind, soul, and body so much that you have no idea how sick you are becoming because you are constantly being pushed off balance and tripped up as soon as your feet are on solid ground.

Insults, abuse, violence, all those tactics they use to keep us under their reign of terror causes us to have high blood pressure, ulcers, strokes, heart attacks, digestive problems, mental problems, and a host of other physical conditions that are directly caused by the Godless PN who knows they are killing you slowly and they don't care. They keep doing it, they will continue to do so long as you are in their strike zone. They will do it to someone else after you are gone as well.

I have some confessions to make and advice to request.

I refer to many of my experiences as "unspeakable". They are just that and will remain such for the moment. I never knew what hatred was, I never imagined what revenge would feel like, I never had the mind of a serpent. Until I met JRT. The boundary separating innocence and ignorance became very blurry.

He forgot he gave me his email password such a long time ago. I have a wealth of information on the mindset, behavior, and unaltered baseline data for at least this one NPs level of sickness. What they (he) does and says when he *thinks* no body is looking......I hate to admit trhis, but I am tired of hurting and hating. Nothing helps me heal. I'm going to see if maybe just maybe - a form or revenge, get even - just may make me feel better.

I willl start a new topic for the next novelette I write - and than ks for listening.
Bye for now....

Hi Destiny22,

Your post is currently in the Adult Children of Psychopaths and Narcissists board, and so I shall move it to the main psychopath board where you will be able to talk to people who have had relationships with psychopaths since that appears to be what you are talking about.

I can hear your pain in your words, but I have to tell you - revenge on a psychopath wont work. All it will do is rebound on you big time. The only way to "beat" them is to walk away from them and have nothing to do with them. You've already outlined the distress they cause, and I can testify to the physical damage done as well as emotional.

If you go for revenge - you may well feel an initial high, but it wont last, and if you are dealing with a psychopath - you will pay for it. They are human machines, and they love games - playing with them is a high stakes game that cannot be won.

destiny22 wrote:He forgot he gave me his email password such a long time ago. I have a wealth of information on the mindset, behavior, and unaltered baseline data for at least this one NPs level of sickness. What they (he) does and says when he *thinks* no body is looking......I hate to admit trhis, but I am tired of hurting and hating. Nothing helps me heal. I'm going to see if maybe just maybe - a form or revenge, get even - just may make me feel better.

DON'T for a minute even ponder the possibility that he "forgot" he gave you his email password!!! He knows damn well that you have the password. That is why you have it. He wanted you to have it, otherwise you wouldn't!

After the anger set in after my divorce I felt the need to get revenge on my exhusband (narcissist.) I felt that way for a couple of years. I engaged with him unnecessarily. I responded when he baited me. For a time I lashed out. I had never, that I can recall, wanted to get revenge on another human being before and I was baffled that I felt this way. Even with the abuse I suffered as a child, I never felt the conscious desire for revenge. The feeling eventually passed and I regret the energy I wasted on him....

Please do not get revenge. Just don't do it. I think it is natural to feel that way. The situation we are in is unfair. Echo is right...I believe seeking revenge on a sociopath or psychopath can cost your your life. He wants you to seek revenge.

It is so frustrating to know that there is actually a person as evil as the P, walking the planet and getting away with every hurtful, hateful thing it does. Only time and self-care have softened the blow for me...and the driving need to never have a relationship with a P or N again.
The best revenge have had in the last three years of P stalking is the fact that I am doing well for myself and I could care less about how the P is doing. I have gotten away from him but he will be stuck with himself forever. His miserable future is clear.

Hi again...thanks for moving my post to the appropriate area. I've needed to get my thoughts more organized, and this thread is my first attempt at verbalizing some sort of "goals" Ive got, for lack of a better term.

He is clueless that I can read not only emails, but on-line banking and statements, craigslist account, numerous dating sites, and I have spoken to his sister as well. Due to my spying, I alerted his half-sister that her inheritance was on the MLS - he was selling the house that she was to inherit when their mother died. Mom was ill, JRT put her in a nursing home and immeadiately tried to sell the house and being trustee/executor, he very nearly stole it right out from under his sister, having mom sign papers on her deathbed selling the house. The deal was pulled while it was in escrow, a very close call for his sis. If I hadn't been spying, if I hadn't taken the chance to call her (I only met her once, a couple of years ago) - if I hadn't done that, he would have had BOTH homes for himself, and sis would have nothing. I also told her about the secret mini-storage unit where he has hidden valuables from her too, the greedy waste of oxygen that he is. LOL She hasn't blown my cover, and she has had to get a restraining order against her brother, because he's not taking too well to NOT getting his own way. She also has a lawyer, and proceedings are underway to remove him as executor/trustee.

He has no idea that I am the snitch, the spy, the cyber stalker.
I am already executing "revenge" but my motivation is pretty simple. He has two sons, 22 and 14 that he is just as selfish and greedy towards them as well. His kids and his sister will be eternally scarred as it is, just by the fact they have no choice in being sibling or offspring. If I can assist in minimizing their pain, I will.

And I say nothing to him. I don't see him, or meet him or contact him, unless its to mess with his head (because I can). He taught me how, and I learn quickly.
I will never behave like this towards any other human being as long as I live, but this man is making people physically ill, he consistently makes the world a nastier place, with every one he comes into contact with.

And I smile when I think of his sister getting her birthright, and JRT getting exposed for just one of his evil deeds.
I'm not finished either. He systematically attacked every facet of my life, and as God is my Witness I pray to be free of my own ego with what I do and why I do it.. I pray that he is stopped from hurting anyone else, and whatever method that takes form as I do't care. But it feels like if (I imagine I mean) that if I were raped and didn/t try to put him away then if he raped another, I would be sorta responsible....?

Thanks for listening, I have barely scratched the surface with what I've learned in terms of "what they say" and "what they are really doing when they think they are alone"

to mzright - I encourage you to ponder the fact that you are 100% wrong in this case.

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Re: Legal Method To Murder and Torture Another Human Being
by mzright on Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:01 am

DON'T for a minute even ponder the possibility that he "forgot" he gave you his email password!!! He knows damn well that you have the password. That is why you have it. He wanted you to have it, otherwise you wouldn't!

What are you planning to do?

Ambereyes, I don't know how to answer this question. I think I'm afraid to write it down. I will share what happens as my struggle unfolds though. I'm considering legal actions and illegal ones too, and other things that would cause him to suffer in torturous agony for all eternity (voo-doo and stuff like that) OK, I'm being silly now, but you probably know where my mindset is at, since we are all here in the forum for trying to heal and make some sense out of the nonsense we let invade our happy lives.

BUT here's a story from back in the day when I was still actively engaging with IT:

He was chasing me one night, me in my car, him on his harley. I was stopped at a red light, and in my rear view mirror I could see him approaching, splitting lanes to get up next to me and by pass the vehicles behind me also stopped at the red light (my car was first in line at the intersection)

Anyway, I recall how it felt like my arm got a mind of it's own, like I was watching my arm and hand reach across the front seat to open the passenger door at the perfect moment when IT was next to me......and *KA-PANK* he and his harley swirved and spun and landed unharmed 2 lanes of traffic over, on the side shoulder of the street. He tried to report me to the police for that, but they told him it was illegal to hit a vehicle that is stopped at a red light.

He was chasing me, and that was one time I stuck up for myself and it feels good.

NAMASTE g'nite!

destiny22 wrote:to mzright - I encourage you to ponder the fact that you are 100% wrong in this case.

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Re: Legal Method To Murder and Torture Another Human Being
by mzright on Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:01 am

DON'T for a minute even ponder the possibility that he "forgot" he gave you his email password!!! He knows damn well that you have the password. That is why you have it. He wanted you to have it, otherwise you wouldn't!

I pondered before I posted. My response is based on my personal experiences and experiences shared with me by others. Many Ps & Ns go out of their way to make others think they aren't as intelligent as they are, are "forgetful", etc., setting others up for their own twisted dramas.
Of course there is a possibility I'm wrong - it is not about wrong or right. It is about not forgetting how sneaky, sly, and fully capable they are of things that most people wouldn't even consider.
When I read your post an alarm went off in me. Ns & Ps are usually very compulsive and secretive with their "useful" information. They don't give things out like passwords unless they have to or there is a motive in it for them. And when they do, they typically don't forget they gave it out.

I hope I am wrong. From your further depiction of what is happening it sounds like I could very well be. Just don't forget what they are capable of.

Im reminded of all the times my xp tried to cause my death so it would be seen as accidental....Just home from hosp after a punctured lung...him goading me(non stop) so I finally lost it and yelled at him to stop.Thought I was going to die! Then the light fixture he wired above my bed(we slept separate) actually fell one day....I wasnt under it but looking at how he had put it up could see it was planned.....After I had been hit by a semi he purposly pulled out in the path of an uncomming semi pulling back just in time.Many more 'accidents'....Being on this board as long as I have I can tell you its not unusual for ps to do this....but anybody can do things accidental right?

When psychopaths are messed with and cornered- THAT is when they become most dangerous. Doing this is jeaopardizing your life. You are playing his game and stooping to his level. I did it too. And it didn't work. It only provided his delusions that I was still in love with him and trying to get even and drove his fantasies to mess with me even more.

The best defense is to take care of yourself and live well and move on from IT. Show him in any way that he can see (without contact from you) that you have moved on and he didn't destroy you which is his ultimate motive.

Live well..... That will be like molten lava poured upon his head. (proverbs speaks of this)

knoxy wrote:Hello Destiny22 and welcome to the board.

You are new here, so I will advise you that we do not advocate "revenge" story or revenge planning on this board. We do not advocate cyberstalking or any contact with our abusers (hopefully, former abusers) when at all possible.

Not to mention that what you are doing/thinking borders on identity theft and is illegal. Your story does point to the power such people have over others. About 10 years ago I was in counseling over a relationship with a sex/love addict and my psychologist provided some very wise and simple insight: "crazy people make you crazy."

Stop the cyberstalking and move on with you life. Some other wise words: "the best revenge is a good life."